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  RE: suggestions for a physics stude... Pickingsadmin Feb-20-00 1
     RE: suggestions for a physics stude... ryan Apr-23-03 2
     RE: suggestions for a physics stude... ryan Apr-23-03 3
  RE: suggestions for a physics stude... Christina Apr-21-04 4
  RE: suggestions for a physics stude... bob May-12-04 5
     RE: suggestions for a physics stude... Jess Dec-02-04 6
         RE: suggestions for a physics stude... Niem Apr-19-05 8
             RE: suggestions for a physics stude... Bushman Apr-22-05 9
         RE: suggestions for a physics stude... Tom May-12-05 10
             RE: suggestions for a physics stude... Jess Aug-30-05 12
  another physics student Jess Aug-30-05 11
     RE: another physics student Bushman Sep-01-05 13
  RE: suggestions for a physics stude... joe Sep-08-05 14
  RE: suggestions for a physics stude... britt Mar-25-06 15
  RE: suggestions for a physics stude... Allie Apr-12-06 16

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Pickingsadmin
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1. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   I don't have any information to send you directly, but if you go to the BridgeSite to the "Bridge Links" - "Fun and Learning" area, you will want to check out the links there. The best spaghetti bridges are truss bridges, so you will want to check out the link to the Truss Bridge Laboratory and the Bridge Basics link. The Newton's Apple site is also helpful. Spaghetti makes a wonderful truss element.

The best way to design your bridge is to first look at the different types of bridges built by engineers today. Bridge engineers try to solve exactly the same problem that you are with your project: Design an attractive structure which optimizes weight and cost. I suggest that you browse around the web and look at the different types of truss bridges that have been built around the world. After you have found some bridges you like, then you can pattern your model after them.

Good glue is a necessity for strong spaghetti structures. I suggest a fast-drying epoxy type glue for maximum strength and workability. Wood glues are also good, but take a long time to set. If you decide to use epoxy, be very careful with it. You don't want to glue yourself or your dog to the furniture.

Another hint is to cook the spaghetti and the let it dry. It gets much stronger. You can also form interesting shapes (like cables) when it is wet. Your teacher may not allow you to do this though.

You might also try downloading the "West Point Bridge Designer" program at http://www.dean.usma.edu/cme/civilsoft.htm This is a great program for learning about truss bridges and will no doubt impress your teacher.


Good Luck! Richard Pickings, P.E.


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ryan
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Apr-23-03, 05:23 PM (PDT)
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2. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
In response to message #1
 
   >I don't have any information to
>send you directly, but if
>you go to the BridgeSite
>to the "Bridge Links" -
>"Fun and Learning" area, you
>will want to check out
>the links there. The best
>spaghetti bridges are truss bridges,
>so you will want to
>check out the link to
>the Truss Bridge Laboratory and
>the Bridge Basics link. The
>Newton's Apple site is also
>helpful. Spaghetti makes a wonderful
>truss element.
>
>The best way to design your
>bridge is to first look
>at the different types of
>bridges built by engineers today.
>Bridge engineers try to solve
>exactly the same problem that
>you are with your project:
>Design an attractive structure which
>optimizes weight and cost. I
>suggest that you browse around
>the web and look at
>the different types of truss
>bridges that have been built
>around the world. After you
>have found some bridges you
>like, then you can pattern
>your model after them.
>
>Good glue is a necessity for
>strong spaghetti structures. I suggest
>a fast-drying epoxy type glue
>for maximum strength and workability.
>Wood glues are also good,
>but take a long time
>to set. If you decide
>to use epoxy, be very
>careful with it. You don't
>want to glue yourself or
>your dog to the furniture.
>
>
>Another hint is to cook the
>spaghetti and the let it
>dry. It gets much stronger.
>You can also form interesting
>shapes (like cables) when it
>is wet. Your teacher may
>not allow you to do
>this though.
>
>You might also try downloading the
>"West Point Bridge Designer" program
>at http://www.dean.usma.edu/cme/civilsoft.htm This is a
>great program for learning about
>truss bridges and will no
>doubt impress your teacher.
>
>
>Good Luck! Richard Pickings, P.E.



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ryan
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Apr-23-03, 05:23 PM (PDT)
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3. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
In response to message #1
 
   >I don't have any information to
>send you directly, but if
>you go to the BridgeSite
>to the "Bridge Links" -
>"Fun and Learning" area, you
>will want to check out
>the links there. The best
>spaghetti bridges are truss bridges,
>so you will want to
>check out the link to
>the Truss Bridge Laboratory and
>the Bridge Basics link. The
>Newton's Apple site is also
>helpful. Spaghetti makes a wonderful
>truss element.
>
>The best way to design your
>bridge is to first look
>at the different types of
>bridges built by engineers today.
>Bridge engineers try to solve
>exactly the same problem that
>you are with your project:
>Design an attractive structure which
>optimizes weight and cost. I
>suggest that you browse around
>the web and look at
>the different types of truss
>bridges that have been built
>around the world. After you
>have found some bridges you
>like, then you can pattern
>your model after them.
>
>Good glue is a necessity for
>strong spaghetti structures. I suggest
>a fast-drying epoxy type glue
>for maximum strength and workability.
>Wood glues are also good,
>but take a long time
>to set. If you decide
>to use epoxy, be very
>careful with it. You don't
>want to glue yourself or
>your dog to the furniture.
>
>
>Another hint is to cook the
>spaghetti and the let it
>dry. It gets much stronger.
>You can also form interesting
>shapes (like cables) when it
>is wet. Your teacher may
>not allow you to do
>this though.
>
>You might also try downloading the
>"West Point Bridge Designer" program
>at http://www.dean.usma.edu/cme/civilsoft.htm This is a
>great program for learning about
>truss bridges and will no
>doubt impress your teacher.
>
>
>Good Luck! Richard Pickings, P.E.



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Christina
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Apr-21-04, 02:17 PM (PDT)
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4. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   Hi, I'm younger then you. But i've done about 3 bridge building compitons for school and fun. I've won 2 of them. Truss bridges are the strongest brdiges and the look good because there made out of triangular forms (whoich hold alot of wieght) they are the most popular and known. My advice to you is build one of those and when your drying it clamp it together but not to hard because your using noodles and if your gluing it use a blow dryer. Pay attention to everything like what kind of glue or whatever materials your using. Whatever your using to bind it together don't use to much because it might wiegh to much and always always just keep measuring it because beieve me it is really easy to go over 30 cm without knowing it. Well thats just me. Ihope it helps .


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bob
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5. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   Get lost


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Jess
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Dec-02-04, 04:35 PM (PDT)
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6. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   Hey

I've made heaps of bridges and won alot of competitions! If u think ur good than..... your not! The truss bridges are the strongest but using a hair dryer doesn't work as well as just giving it time to drie because when u use a hair dryer it's not as strong. How younge are u? U should try different designes because the quality and strength of brideges can change depending on different things

U get lost!


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Niem
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8. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   i have to build a bridge out of 300 toothpicks for my math class. It must hold 10 pounds to get an A (im a 8th grade student) i was thinking of building a truss bridge but i have to build a replica of an actually bridge and i cant find one, any sugggestion?


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Bushman
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Apr-22-05, 04:33 PM (PDT)
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9. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   Here is a page with a few pictures of some real truss bridges:
http://www.richmangalleries.com/truss_bridges_iv.htm


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Tom
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May-12-05, 05:39 PM (PDT)
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10. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   I'm having problems with my bridge. Some of the spaghetti parts seem to be curling up. I glued about 1 inch pieces together and made about 6 or 8 pieces to connect to each other. Even the smaller pieces seem to curl, I don't know how to make them straight and flat.


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Jess
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Aug-30-05, 04:22 PM (PDT)
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12. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   >I'm having problems with my bridge.
>Some of the spaghetti parts
>seem to be curling up.
>I glued about 1 inch
>pieces together and made about
>6 or 8 pieces to
>connect to each other. Even
>the smaller pieces seem to
>curl, I don't know how
>to make them straight and
>flat.


If you are using hot glue, the ends will cook and curl up, try using a different type of glue.


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Jess
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Aug-30-05, 04:20 PM (PDT)
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11. "another physics student"
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   Hi,

I'm another Physics student, and I really enjoy the class, but my teacher is particularly tough. I had him for integrated Chemistry, and Chemistry1 and now Physics too. I've always maintained an A in his class, so it's really important that I do good on this project.

We have to build a bridge out of spaghetti noodles, and glue, that's it, the bridge that holds the most weight,best design, and lowest gross weight get a prize. I need some useful tips to help with my bridge.

Thanks!!!


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Bushman
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13. "RE: another physics student"
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   Here is a page with lots of pictures or spaghetti bridges.

http://www.jhu.edu/virtlab/fall04/pics/

Hope that helps.


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joe
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14. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   spaghetti WEAKENS when cooked, heat can bend it, sure, but do NOT use water.

DO NOT USE WOOD GLUE its water based


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britt
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15. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   you could use little hollow cylinder like noodles vertically between 2 peices of lasanga it would distribute the weight better making the bridge sturdier...just a tip.(im tryin to build one of these bridges too...)


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16. "RE: suggestions for a physics student"
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   Try these websites:

www.diecastdurham.com
www.bconnex.net/-gerryj/
www.yesmag.bc.ca/focus/structures/structures.html
www.ericir.syr.edu/Projects/Newton/12/Lessons/bridges.html


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